On developing this program and I can tell you right now it didn't. Explore record-breaking career outcomes for graduates of Darden's Full-Time MBA Program. The next bullet is our internal audit. Doug Thomas is theHenry E. McWane Professor of Business Administration at the Darden School of Business. And if you think about it, every company does some form of due diligence before they let somebody have these accesses. We have invested in developing and demonstrating hypersonic technology for over 30 years. It's kind of talents. 1900-2020. To execute a program like this, 'cause there's just your new and you're not known an, you're looked at strangely about wanting all this information. What do you do with that when the tool tells you there's a typical behavior 'cause not all atypical behaviors concerning behavior? "The program is over budget. Nov 2022 - Present5 months. So they're the ones who probably have the best Insights into our critical assets. That means: Our adversaries know this, which makes it even more important that mid-sized companies organize and operate their insider threat program effectively. So what works for those gaps? All Rights Reserved. And really what I want to dwell on today is the insider threat, but this program? It kind of puts a nice book in on your talk and that is eating the elephant. A MOSA will provide the interconnectivity needed to work with other elements of the kill web as well as ease of updating depending on mission needs. /Count 16 As long as you keep looking for areas of improvements, and communicating the benefits, you can help to improve the way that change is perceived. You know that's not a goal of ours. People in anywhere Between 25 years old and 70 years old there from legal, there are scientists, engineers, HR, security information security there from all walks of life quite frankly, and they came back to us and said, oh so you want to create a culture of snitches. The IC Intelligence Committee has been, uh, alive and well. Pardon me Who's been involved in that asset discussion? And why is that? ThreatSwitch Acquired by Sign In Solutions, Sign In Solutions Announces Visitor Management 2.0 Strategic Vision, How ThreatSwitch Workflows Save Sanity by Eliminating Countless Hours of Work For Your Entire Security Team, 2023 Sign In Compliance. After high school, their love of science and math took them on divergent career paths that then intersected in the Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control business. Congressman Investigation offensive operation in the in the entire community and what I saw was a shift from nation states away from their 100% dwelling on trying to penetrate CIA or FBI or State Department or DoD or DoD. Not, I'm not gonna use names. A pretty robust program, and you're collecting the right kind of data and it's being analyzed correctly. Featured. >> ", "During my time in Lockheed Martin's Leadership Development Program, I was able to get my Master's at NYU. I don't want to do is overstep that privacy. The other 50% are human behavior stuff. Well, they wanted to hear more about it as it evolved, and ever since I've been doing it, they keep wanting it to come back on an annual basis. You gotta jump over, of course, but that's not the hardest part. Part of that staffing includes the Computer Incident Response team. Because it is a painful process quite frankly, but it it helps us. The tool is done. OK, so like a company like Lockheed Martin, we're already selling things like the F35, so what's the next generation product? ", "I truly learn something new every day, and every day I get to solve new challenges. Um, other things that happened is he added Clearence, so of course we notified the government and you know they. Data loss prevention tools. Alright, so there was a couple of reasons why they shifted. All 73 federal agencies more mandated to stand up an insider threat detection program. The clear population generally has by default consented to some level of monitoring and information sharing for that uncleared population. endobj Have some minor wins, prove the concept if you will where we are today, certainly is not where we were seven years ago with this program. We want employees to be engaged in this program for their sake for their coworkers, sake for national security sake and for our brand and reputation sake. The company just dropped his two week resignation notice and he's getting ready to go to company X. My favorite part of my job is when I get to see the photos of the brave individuals of the armed forces returning home to their families. For over 19 years, she has fulfilled her mission of delivering secure systems to our customers. The people executing the mission us in the business areas, executing the mission, and it helps the leadership understand that hey, we are executing the mission. Douglas Rood's Phone Number and Email Last Update. ', After a few years working in Operations, I made the decision to get my associate degree in industrial maintenance. He's on the Board of directors for the International Association of the Chief Police and it as if that were not enough. This is people who have access to information, facilities, networks, people, resources. Mr. Thomas retired from this position on October 1, 2011. So this next bill is kind of interesting federal law enforcement referral. Capability should sit. Hey great thank you John, I appreciate it. Double Asian operation. We're looking for risk. Contact. OK, in fact I had an ethics officer who sat on the konops build with us who made a very good comment to us and that was just because you can do something, meaning it's legally OK to do it or regulatory. And if you're trying to come up with the terms to name your program that get the point across without, you know, communicating you know, concerned among the employees? So now that got us a little concerned. Lockheed Martin Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin provides research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. DOUGLAS D. (DOUG) THOMAS is the Head of Counterintelligence for Lockheed Martin Corporation. endobj I think they do a better job of taking care of their information then the government takes care of classified information. in operations research from Cornell University. They have not once did US harm in any way. Lockheed Martin 23 years 2 months Senior Software Engineering Manager Apr 2022 - Present11 months Huntsville, Alabama, United States Software Engineering Manager Oct 2019 - Apr 20222 years 7. In this capacity, he leads a staff that is responsible for providing advice and guidance relative to investigations, counterintelligence, counterterrorism and workplace violence matters impacting the About this program. I will tell you who gave me the hardest time after. But what we don't do is we don't talk about our potential risk indicators and the data sources we use. We don't go into great detail about these specific data if you will, but what I will tell you is that at the end of the day. Of course they intend to work well with it in legal and and you know the different departments key security versus regular security and counterintelligence. Previously, Dougl Read More Contact Douglas Thomas's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/20/2022 10:24 PM Email d***@lockheedmartin.com Engage via Email Contact Number (301) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number So you Fast forward it today. I don't understand how company can afford not to do this. Thomas received his M.S. How do you work through that? I think what my office does more than anything. Robust and South threat detection capability. Quite frankly, you can go to the next slide, please. It's just we are. Engineers are challenged to look at the system surrounding them and find solutions to complex problems. % It was just OK and the my very first week here. Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif., who leads HASC's readiness subcommittee, doubled down on Norcross's vow to fight adding extra F-35s to the FY22 budget. The third bullet there. And then the last bullet I have there is a farce. /F1 54 0 R Global Presence, Local Impact . Representation matters., Veterans, reservists, and military spouses comprise well over one-fifth of our 114,000 employees, "I was very lucky that when I decided to take that step out of the closet I was accepted right away, and I can truly say that my career has flourished since. So we will be sharing that with you after the webinars over, including the recording, so be sure to check back there if you're looking for the slots or the recording. Point towards disgruntlement or stressors. Education: B.S., Cornell University; M.S., Ph.D., Georgia Institute of Technology. As a follow up to that one, you know, I know that there are a couple of other companies that have gone out and sought explicit consent for employees. We just never used it in his former fashion before. So we don't use the word report. I have a staff meeting every Tuesday with our business area kind of talent slides. He is also the primary face to the Intelligence Community. So that's one thing, so offices that were painful. I hope I did not waste your time and I hope you got at least one nugget out of this. Or to the steering committee search is one of the first people I mentioned right off the bat because they provide about 50% of our leads that comes out of the Rams tool are from SERT. You will see indications of suicide thoughts or things that might turn violent. Did that take some work? I would say the exact same thing. So no time spent on this chart whatsoever. Departments that aren't bought in will ignore it. Others seem to embrace it as security actually gave me the hardest time about this program because they thought that they were already doing counterintelligence. /Font << Right, that's super helpful and I know that's one that people cook with a lot in. The Board of Directors is briefed every year. Below are the 3 lessons I learned from my conversation with Doug. So he's looking at things 1520 years down the road. So some people say well, did he get prosecuted well? He has testified as an expert witness and consulted for several large organizations on supply chain strategy including Accenture, CSL Behring, Dell, ExxonMobil and Lockheed Martin Aerospace Corporation. But there are some similarities. I got the opportunity to meet Doug Fairly recently, although. And he said he was going to take it to the next company. It's actually, it's less of a legal decision, more of a risk decision on whether or not we can look in there or not. /Filter /FlateDecode Again, if you have. In this capacity, he provided executive leadership to 3,200 personnel located in 220 offices throughout the world who were responsible for investigating felony-level investigations, as well as conducting counterintelligence and counterterrorism operations. We really have had some great successes with suicide ideations in workplace violence with this tool. I will tell you that I think our training awareness program has actually stopped some bad behavior because people aren't as reluctant to come to us and tell us about things that are concerning that they're witnessing. It took us over a year to narrow down this critical asset list. 2023 C5 Group Inc. All Rights Reserved. It depends on your culture. I also have a staff meeting on Thursday with our investigations leads. On the 3rd part down there, identify stakeholders. That works for me. First off, it was myself and the chief technology officer and the Chief Technology officer reached out to Chief Technology Officer. When they have that kind of access. So just to level set to make sure we're all staying on the same sheet of music. Now I've also mentioned about the application as suicide ideations in workplace violence prevention. The insider threat Assets risk counterintelligence. /Length 2057 Those people they didn't go through with it. It's always been penetrated, so but it is a harder target than industry. The ramifications of this was. Focused experiences for high-potential executives & managers seeking personal growth and career transformation. 3 0 obj For those of you who have attended our webinars before, you know we always ask a poll question about this time, so we're going to quickly present a poll to you. Is because if you think about the concerning behaviors of people who are considering suicide or people who are considering workplace violence on a significant scale and those people who are considering espionage after locking Martin proprietary information, there are some similarities, not exact. Publicly available information. Well, they weren't. Misgovernance this to me is a big deal and I'm going to bring it up again later because I think it's I think it's. I consider it an honor and privilege!, 2023 Lockheed Martin Corporation. As pretty intrusive. But I let them know that look, I have. Doug Thomas is the Henry E. McWane Professor of Business Administration at the Darden School of Business. As I reflect on our journey. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do something OK. And that has resonated with me greatly because I think privacy is a big deal. Well, about three years after I retired from the government, director Clapper asked us not like in Martin, but the inside Insider Threat Subcommittee to look at the definition of insider threat. We're interested in some people who might be leaving and the reason why I say it like that. He lied about the job offer. Yeah, well, we already have all this stuff, you know. I mean, 'cause. A lot of it has to do with stressors and people becoming disgruntled and things like that. I have several dogs, so I can. Now, if he uses any of our data, you know you have a problem to your company has a problem. You really do need to invest in time and work an efforts with developing a relationship with their Chief Technology Officer. Gave two weeks notice and we've done a very good job of training awareness to the workforce, especially people like HR business Partners, because they see and hear everything, it seems like. From each business area and then the hope was that the business areas would submit their top 10 and the Chief Technology officer would narrow that down to 10. For instance, you know early on you wanna know about who are if. /Type /Page We have the director counterintelligence operations incorporated investigations at Lockheed Martin and Doug Thomas, who I am delighted to have on the call I'm John Dillard. They've been a great partner to work with it. /Pages 2 0 R But none of them had what we need, and at the end of the day, what we needed was something that looked at the human behavior and in digital behavior. When you when you put together that list and you asked for that, did you survey a number of different departments or what? To 10. What did you guys discover? It knows that, OK, the tools designed like that, so the analyst can't readily see Doug Thomas is information because he's overseas. My boss says I'm opaque, transparent what he means by that is I'm very well our office. I think your culture could drive what you call yourself an where this office is executed from. Where did we come up with this? Lockheed Martin provides me an opportunity for job security and a chance to follow my passion. Darden develops leaders in locations worldwide. ", "I have been on incredible teams filled with mentors of all levels and backgrounds that are willing to help the next generation learn and grow in their career. He resides in Maryland with his wife and three sons. We've built the program. When we got here, not one time did it ever have a referral to the FBI or the federal law enforcement. This is the definition we use in Lockheed Martin. We took a look at OK. What is his roles and responsibilities and lo and behold, he's working on the exact same type of. Click here to see the career opportunities in your area. It can take years. >> There's some things that you gotta hurdles. OK, but this HR business partner came to us and said, hey Doug Thomas is getting ready to leave. That includes: Throughout Doug's talk, he came back to a critical, often-missed perspective: without transparency and trust, insider threat programs won't work. Although I say that the government is never not been penetrated in the in the entire time. 'cause again, that's kind of our secret sauce. If you will is there's a fair amount of synergy between an insider threat program and of course, kind of tell us but insider threat program as well as general investigations and I'll go into that in a little bit more. ", Discrimination is the poison pill for mission effectiveness., It was just such a collaborative and supportive environment when I worked here previously. You've got an oversight internal audit, risking compliance committee. What we do is, we think of new data that we're not even. The other thing on here is Red team. Now I do like expanding on this cell and this is what makes me question my decisions previously on Things, Insider threat or is it insider risk? Certainly not our potential risk indicators, but the fact that we had a program. In addition to his years on the faculty at Penn State, Thomas has had the pleasure of serving as a visiting faculty member at INSEAD (in Fontainebleau, France), the Johnson Graduate School of Management at Cornell University and the Darden School at the University of Virginia. So like in Martins about 105 years old and before my office got here. /MediaBox [0 0 792 612] >> It could mean a person or a facility or proprietary information, and so How is Lockheed Martin dealt with the issue of a defining assets, especially in light of how DSSD CSA is changing the way it thinks about those things and then identifying critical assets. OK, you've got to let them know that it's in line with your Laws and privacy rules. Because the one that was in the executive order was pretty myopic. And now I I would also add the Chief Technology Officer, but if they're not on board, you're not going to have a robust program because it takes all of those people. Is this so the analysts have no clue who they're looking at. This single chart answers the vast majority of questions I've received over the years regarding the stand up and the execution of the program. You really feel heard even if you are earlier in your career., "My job allows me to use my creativity to come up with innovative solutions for complex problems. We have a human behavior and a digital behavior baseline of every employee in the company and what we're looking for is anonymous or not. His wide-ranging career makes him one of the most influential counterintelligence and insider threat practitioners in the country. Get to know Darden alumni across the globe via the Alumni Spotlight. I'm not even gonna use that kind of weapon system that we're talking about or the location. Complete the Darden MBA on a flexible schedule that works for you at our UVA Darden DC Metro location. Well, you know what? That data is in the tool on every employee and we're getting ready to turn the tool on an begin our program. He is a member of the Institute for Operations Research and Management Sciences, as well as the Production and Operations Management Society. ]T~'#8Xk%u T~- I made an appointment with the CIO and the CIS so I could go in and sit down with them and talk to them about who I was. Like I said, this programs are scalable, so if you're a small company or a medium sized company, maybe you don't invest in a tool if you just hire the right person. It's also about hiring the right people, so I get asked a fair amount of. /Kids [ 3 0 R 5 0 R 7 0 R 9 0 R 11 0 R 13 0 R 15 0 R 17 0 R 19 0 R 21 0 R 23 0 R 25 0 R 27 0 R 29 0 R 31 0 R 33 0 R ] These are the lessons learned for us, and they're not in any particular order but the first one. So today the answer. We spend a lot of time on training and awareness of our workforce, making sure they understand what the threat is is not just a threat against the company and the company. A Lockheed Martin official has said the White House is working to establish a new agency that would take responsibility for the federal security clearance system from the Office of . But the profiling thing is important because what you can't do is send a lead out because Doug Thomas is born in Country X or he has a last name of something or the color of his skin. 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